Bob Moffitt interviews Graham Cathers of the Phoenix Underground, who shares how a holy discontent led him to work in church plants and disciple making movements. Graham says, “We love the church and love being part of what the church represents, but there’s coming a day when we need to have some other strategies to reach people who may never walk through that brick and mortar door.”

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A church that is not impacting a neighborhood will become irrelevant
Bob Moffitt interviews Pastor Wale Adefarasin from Nigeria, who shares many stories about how his church, in a relatively affluent neighborhood, chose to go into another neighborhood with 5 teams to meet the needs of the people, so that they could experience the love of Jesus. In one example, a local high school had just 2 toilets for 2,000 people and 10 staff, and the church built a block of toilets and replaced roofs. As they started meeting medical needs,