Julian Gibb interviews Jacob Ndabaramiye who works in Rwanda, Burundi and the eastern Congo, training and equipping Pastors to be disciples, practice love and forgiveness. Jacob tells a story of a Tutsi man who, after training, took a meal to those prisoners who killed their relatives who were in jail. “They gave food to those people who killed their families and many went to tell those criminals who killed their family members that they forgive them.”